New Delhi: In this fourth part of the five-part news series on the viral podcast of Dr. Subramanian Swamy, the senior BJP leader continues to drop bombshells—this time around India’s defence deals, particularly the Rafale jets, and alleged suppression of dissenting voices within the BJP. Hosted by Neeraj Jha on the Molitics YouTube channel, the podcast has drawn massive attention for its sharp criticism of the government’s inner workings.
After Swamy exposed alleged foreign pressure on Modi in Part 3, he now turns his attention to India’s military preparedness, the Rafale controversy, and how honest voices in the party are being sidelined or silenced.
“Five Rafales Were Shot Down, But No One Talks About It”
Swamy was asked about a claim he made earlier — that five Rafale fighter jets were shot down during Indo-Pak tensions. The host pressed him: Was there any proof, or was it just an accusation?
Swamy stood by his statement.
“Then condemn me. Make fun of me. It would be very easy. But they don’t — because they know what I said came from somewhere. My phone is tapped. They know who gave me the material.”
He added that he had not made mistakes in the past when it came to revealing sensitive information.
“Rafale Is Not for War, Only for Practice”
Calling the Rafale aircraft unfit for combat, Swamy said:
“Most of these planes are from France. Rafale is only good for practice, not for war. It can never survive in a real battle.”
He cited an example from Switzerland, which he claimed had asked France for a demonstration of Rafale jets but later refused to buy even one after the trial.
Swamy said he conducted his own research and raised serious questions over the jet’s capabilities.
Manohar Parrikar Was Against Rafale Deal, Cried Before Me: Swamy
In an emotional revelation, Swamy shared details about a private conversation with late Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, whom he described as a friend and like a student.
“When Rafale was about to be bought, he told me — crying — that he had done a wrong thing. He didn’t want to go ahead with it. He even left national politics and went back to Goa. He was under immense pressure.”
Swamy recalled that Parrikar had plans to write a book, but passed away before he could.
When asked if there was an allegation behind this, Swamy clarified:
“I’m not making any allegations. I have no evidence. But I’m telling you this because I knew him well. He was deeply disturbed.”
“Mukesh Wasn’t Involved, His Brother Was”
Swamy hinted at business links to the Rafale deal, stating:
“Mukesh doesn’t get involved in this. But his brother received a lot of help through this deal.”
The host asked who was really running the show. Swamy replied:
“Supreme leader? No one dares take his name. But yes, without Narendra Modi’s involvement, such a deal would not have happened.”
He added that a Gujarati man called Kakubhai was managing the deeper affairs of the deal, possibly as a fixer or backchannel operator.
“Amit Shah's Job Is to ‘Correct’ People”
While Modi was identified as the central figure in the deal, Swamy said Amit Shah had a different role within the system.
“Amit Shah doesn’t manage deals. His job is to correct people. If a journalist misbehaves, he will make sure that person is silenced.”
Media Blackout: “It’s an Order Not to Show Me”
When asked why TV media gives him no coverage despite his outspoken views, Swamy said:
“It’s an order. Channels are told not to show me. I keep speaking but no one responds. The effort is to make people like me irrelevant.”
He admitted that some in the party are trying to push him out of relevance because of his independent voice, while others stay quiet out of fear or ambition.
“People are afraid. Everyone wants a post, so they stay silent. But I have nothing to lose.”
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Thiruvananthapuram (PTI): Buoyed by the strong performance of the Congress-led UDF in the local body polls, KPCC president Sunny Joseph said on Saturday that the front's results indicated the people had rejected the LDF government.
According to early trends, the UDF was leading in more grama panchayats, block panchayats, municipalities and corporations than the LDF.
The local body polls were held in two phases in the state earlier this week.
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Speaking to reporters here, Joseph said the people of Kerala had extended their support to the UDF.
"We could expose the LDF government’s anti-people stance and the people understood it. The LDF’s fake propaganda was rejected by the people. The UDF is moving towards a historic victory," he said.
He said a united effort, proper preparations, good candidate selection and hard work had resulted in the Congress and the UDF’s victory in the elections.
Asked about the prospects in the Thiruvananthapuram Corporation, Joseph said the party was studying the matter and would comment later.
LDF convenor T P Ramakrishnan said the results would be closely examined.
According to him, the government had done everything possible for the people.
"Why such a verdict happened will be examined at the micro level. People’s opinion will be considered and further steps will be taken," he said.
He added that decisions would be taken after analysing the results. "If any corrective measures are required, we will initiate them and move forward," he said.
AICC leader K C Venugopal said the results showed that people had begun ousting those who, he alleged, were responsible for the loss of gold at Lord Ayyappa’s temple.
"This trend will continue in the Assembly elections as well. It is an indication that the people are ready to bring down the LDF government," he said.
Venugopal said the UDF had registered victories even in CPI(M) and LDF strongholds.
"I congratulate all UDF workers for their hard work. Congress workers and leaders worked unitedly," he said.
Referring to remarks made by Chief Minister Pinarayi Vijayan against the Congress on polling day, Venugopal said the voters had responded through the verdict.
"I do not know whether the chief minister understands that the people are against him. Otherwise, he does not know the sentiment of the people. The state government cannot move an inch further," he said.
He said the results indicated a strong comeback for the UDF in Kerala.
Asked whether the Sabarimala gold loss issue had affected the LDF in the local polls, Venugopal said the CM and the CPI(M) state secretary did not take the issue seriously.
"We took a strong stand on the matter. The BJP played a foul game in it," he alleged.
On the BJP's role in the local body elections, Venugopal alleged that the party operated with the CPI(M) 's tacit support.
"The CPI(M) supported the central government on issues such as PM-SHRI, labour codes and corruption in national highway construction. The CPI(M) is facing ideological decline, and the state government’s policies are against the party’s own decisions," he said.
Meanwhile, LDF ally Kerala Congress (M) leader Jose K Mani said the party could not win all the wards it had expected in the elections.
He congratulated winners from all parties and said the party would closely examine the losses and identify shortcomings. "Later, we will take corrective measures," he added.
Senior Congress leader and MP Rajmohan Unnithan said the trends in the local body elections indicated that the UDF would return to power in the 2026 Assembly elections.
"We will win 111 seats as in 1977 and return to power in 2026. The anti-government sentiment of the people is reflected in the elections," he said.
Unnithan said the people were disturbed and unhappy with the present government.
"The trend indicates the end of the LDF government," he added.
CPI(M) MLA M M Mani said the people had shown ingratitude towards the LDF despite benefiting from welfare schemes.
"After receiving all welfare schemes and living comfortably, people voted against us due to some temporary sentiments. Is that not ingratitude," he asked.
Mani said no such welfare initiatives had taken place in Kerala earlier.
"People are receiving pensions and have enough to eat. Even after getting all this, they voted against us. This is what can be called ingratitude," he said.
Muslim League state president Panakkad Sayyid Sadiq Ali Shihab Thangal said the results were beyond expectations.
"The outcome points towards the Secretariat in Thiruvananthapuram, indicating that a change of government is imminent. We are going to win the Assembly election," he said.
