2019 election is between secular and divisive principles : Sam Pitroda
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Sam Pitroda who is basically a telecom engineer is known to the world as an eminent technocrat, experienced policy maker, researcher and progressive thinker. Born in Odisha, he studied engineering in Gujarat, became a businessman in the United States, was the brain behind several innovations, served as the Personal Advisor to two Prime Ministers of India and is recognised as the harbinger of telecom revolution in India. This man of simple living and great thinking is also a confidante of Gandhi family. He was very close to former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi. Sam Pitroda is the Founder Chairman of Indian Telecom Commission and Founder of C-Dot (Centre for The Development of Telematics) which paved way for the present mobile revolution. As Chairman of the National Knowledge Commission in 2004, he made several vital recommendations to the then Manmohan Singh led government on various issues. He founded the National Innovation Council in 2010 and subsequently gave advice and recommendations to the Indian Government. He has 20 Honorary Doctorates from various prestigious universities to his credit. Around 100 global patents are in his name for various researches. He has delivered lectures at various places across the globe. Presently the Personal Advisor to Congress President Rahul Gandhi, he is playing a key role in showing new directions to the party as its NRI cell Chief.
Vartha Bharati caught up with Sam Pitroda who was in Mangaluru on Sunday in the wake of the elections.
Here are excerpts from the interview.
Vartha Bharati : You have worked very closely with the former prime ministers Rajiv Gandhi and Manmohan Singh. You are also an expert in policy making. What differences do you notice between the two previous governments and the present government?
Sam Pitroda : Firstly, it is the difference in principles, secondly the difference in programme implementation. Both Rajiv Gandhi and Manmohan Singh adopted a policy wherein, they took everyone into confidence in all works and also ensured justice to all communities and classes. But the present government has a completely contrast policy. This is dangerous to the nation. When the price of crude oil skyrocketed in the global market during Manmohan Singh regime, the nation's growth rate did not slip beyond 7%. What would have been the growth rate then had the crude oil price nose dived as of now? A Prime minister should not talk more and should not spend time in marketing. The Prime ministers I worked with had an urgency to do work. But the present Prime minister is more interested in publicity. That is a big difference.
VB: Don't you think there is the Congress folly here too ? The BJP came to power easily due to Congress failure...
Sam Pitroda: No, the Congress might have erred. But I would not term it as a Congress' failure. Maintaining growth rate at 7-8% continuously for around eight years is not a failure. Reaching out telecom facilities to 2 billion people is not a failure. The immense achievement in the power sector is also not a failure. The Congress Government has made many achievements. But nowadays it is the lies that rule. People are not attracted to achievement as easily as falsehood attracts them. They created clamour about 2G scam. Now it is proved false. They created a ruckus over National Herald scam and it was false. Not only Manmohan, even Rajiv Gandhi had to pay the price for such falsehood campaign. Bofors scam is also a big lie.
VB: What major organisational changes are expected in Congress under Rahul Gandhi's leadership?
Sam Pitroda: He is bringing about organisational changes one by one. Changes are made in the level of General Secretaries, State Presidents and other office bearers. Changes are also brought about in different frontal wings like Youth Congress, Women's, Students' Wing etc. Efforts are on to give a new image to Seva Dal. Everything will take place in phases.
VB: There is a feeling that the Congress has not developed as a cadre based party as BJP. How will you tackle this serious issue?
Sam Pitroda: It is not just a feeling. Congress was never cadre based party. But the party has a history of 100 plus years. It has the tradition of building the nation while being in power for decades. The Indian population has respect and admiration for the party. We have to strive to convert this into votes. The Congress is chalking out a strategy to develop Seva Dal as a powerful organisation. This work will be done under the leadership of Rahul Gandhi.
VB : It is impossible to win the 2019 elections without attracting youth and women. But both these sections are closer to BJP at present. What will be your strategy?
Sam Pitroda : We have noted this problem. People are being lured with lies. Even people are at fault. They are easily attracted to those who present before them an illusory world. Just look how many talk about Mahatma Gandhi in social media. Who speaks about secular principles today? We will enlighten the people on these issues. We will highlight the difference between our government and this government. People themselves will have to decide.
VB : But Congress does not seem to be doing much to publicise secular principles ?
Sam Pitroda : This cannot be said as true. Congress is working in this direction, but it is not suffice. It has to make much more effort.
VB : How will the Congress perform in Karnataka elections ?
Sam Pitroda : As per my observation, the atmosphere is conducive to the Congress. I have the confidence that the Congress will gain maximum seats and come to power.
VB : How is Congress gearing up for 2019 general elections ?
Sam Pitroda : A strategy is being worked out after considering various facts. We will mainly present the failures of the present government before the people. The people need to know the truth. We will highlight our achievements. We will also remind people that the tall promises made by BJP are not fulfilled by this government. BJP may counter attack that our party is corrupt. But , now people know who are really corrupt.
VB : It seems leaders like Mamatha Banerjee, Chandrababu Naidu and others do not have much faith in Rahul's leadership ?
Sam Pitroda : This is not the question of belief. Everyone has the dream of becoming the Prime Minister. But that is not that easy. The party which gets the maximum seats get the PM post too.
VB : Is Rahul Gandhi ready to face Narendra Modi in 2019 ?
Sam Pitroda : Rahul is absolutely ready. But the next election is not only between Rahul and Modi. It is an election between two principles. It is the election between the secular principles of the Congress and the divisive principles of the BJP. It will be an election where people will reject the failures of the BJP. There will be no competition as to who will deliver a good speech. This is the nation building work. No one is running a debating society here to decide who speaks better.
VB : NRIs played a major role in the victory of Modi. What will you as NRI cell chief of Congress do to woo NRIs ?
Sam Pitroda : The BJP tried to woo NRIs through Gujarati businessmen and religious leaders in the name of religion, God and using money power. We are reaching out to NRIs. Rahul's programmes abroad are getting good response.
VB : As a technocrat , what according to you is the major change India has to witness in the next 20 years ?
Sam Pitroda : Presently the Information Technology is restricted to work for foreign companies. The same can bring revolutionary changes in the agriculture, education, health and small and medium industrial sectors. This will help the people of the country. I suggest the Congress to chalk out programmes in this regard.
Interview by: Noor Jahan
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LoP Ashoka targets CM govt over corruption, says being 'shameless' in public life not forgivable
Bengaluru (PTI): Targeting Chief Minister Siddaramaiah and the Congress government in Karnataka on corruption, BJP leader R Ashoka on Friday said, being foolish was forgivable, but being "shameless" in public life was not.
The Leader of Opposition in the state Assembly claimed that in just 30 months of its tenure, the Congress administration has broken every previous record on corruption-related controversies.
He was responding to Siddaramaiah's post on 'X' on Thursday hitting back at the BJP, stating that Upa Lokayukta Justice Veerappa's claims of "63 per cent corruption" were based on his report in November 2019, when BJP's B S Yediyurappa was the CM.
"But Ashoka, without understanding the Upa Lokayukta's statement properly, has ended up tying the BJP's own bells of sins onto our heads and has effectively shot himself in the foot," the CM had said, as he accused Ashoka of foolishness for trying to twist Veerappa's statement to target the current government.
Responding, Ashoka said, "it is one thing to be called foolish in politics, that can be forgiven."
"But in public life, especially in the Chief Minister's chair, one must never become shameless," Ashoka posted on 'X' on Friday addressing Siddaramaiah.
Noting that the CM himself had admitted on the floor of the Assembly that a Rs 87 crore scam took place in the Valmiki Development Corporation, he said that when a CM acknowledges such a massive irregularity inside the floor of the House, the natural expectation is immediate action and accountability.
"But instead of taking responsibility, you continue in office as if nothing has happened. What should the people of Karnataka call this, if not sheer shamelessness," he asked.
Pointing out that the CM's Economic Advisor and senior Congress MLA Basavaraja Rayareddy had publicly stated that under Congress rule, Karnataka has become No.1 in corruption, Ashoka said, "Yet, you still cling to the Chief Minister's chair without a moment of introspection. What should the people of Karnataka call this, if not sheer shamelessness."
Senior Congress MLA C R Patil had exposed the "money for House" racket in the Housing Department and even warned that the government would collapse if the details he has were made public, Ashoka said.
"Despite such serious allegations from within your own party (Congress), you neither initiated an inquiry nor acted against the concerned minister. What should the people of Karnataka call this, if not sheer shamelessness," Ashoka asked the CM.
Highlighting the "40 percent commission" allegation Congress made against the previous BJP government, the opposition leader said, the commission that the Siddaramaiah government appointed concluded that the accusation was baseless.
"After your own panel demolished your own claim, what moral right do you have to continue repeating that allegation. What should the people of Karnataka call this, if not sheer shamelessness," he asked.
For the last two and a half years, Karnataka has been 'drowning' in corruption, scandals, irregularities and allegations across departments. Ashoka said, "If I begin listing every case that emerged under your government, even 24 hours would not be enough."
"And the most tragic aspect of your administration is this: the unbearable pressure, corruption demands and administrative harassment under your government pushed several officers and contractors into extreme distress - including the suicide of Chandrasekharan which exposed the Valmiki Development Corporation scam - a sign of how deeply broken the system has become under your watch," he said.
Instead of fixing this hopeless environment, the government has tried to bury every complaint and silence every voice, he charged.
"Being foolish is forgivable, but being shameless in public life is definitely not."
"When your own ministers admit scams, when your own advisors certify Karnataka as No.1 in corruption, and when your own MLAs expose rackets inside your departments - clinging to power without accountability is not leadership. It is shamelessness in its purest form." PTI KSU
Earlier on Thursday Ashoka had demanded that the corruption case and allegations in the state against the Congress government be handed over to a CBI investigation, citing a reported statement by Upalokaykta Justice Veerappa alleging "63 per cent corruption", following which Siddaramaiah hit back at the BJP leader.
