Modi’s govt will fall after September 2025: Subramanian Swamy hints at major shake-up in BJP
Explosive Subramanian Swamy Podcast: Part 1
A bold and sensational podcast episode featuring veteran BJP leader Dr. Subramanian Swamy has taken YouTube by storm, garnering nearly 2.6 lakh views within 24 hours of its release on the Molitics YouTube channel, hosted by Editor Neeraj Jha. In the episode released on June 17, 2025, Swamy made a series of explosive remarks targeting Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Union Home Minister Amit Shah, and even raised questions on the future of the BJP and India's economic and political direction.
This is the first part of a five-part news series that breaks down the major statements and allegations made during the podcast. Each part will focus on specific topics discussed in the hour-long conversation. Stay tuned for the upcoming segments.
Here’s what was revealed in Part 1, where the conversation focused on the power dynamics within BJP, the future of Narendra Modi, a possible leadership change, and the upcoming delimitation exercise.
Modi Still in Control, Not the RSS: Swamy
In the part of the conversation, Neeraj Jha asked who truly controls the BJP — Narendra Modi or the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS).
Without hesitation, Swamy replied, “Modi. There is nothing about the RSS. As far as running the government is concerned, it’s Modi.”
This once again brought focus on the long-debated equation between the BJP government and its ideological parent, the RSS. Swamy dismissed any influence of the Sangh on day-to-day governance under Modi.
A Big Decision in September, Swamy Drops a Hint
When asked about an important organisational development expected in September 2025, Swamy hinted at a major shake-up but refused to disclose full details.
The host pressed further: “Who is being made the new BJP president?”
Swamy evaded the question but added, “I won’t tell you now... A big bomb is going to explode in September.”
On being asked if he himself was being considered for the party president’s post, Swamy denied it, saying, “No, I don’t need any post. I am senior to everyone. Whoever comes, whoever is President, whoever is any official I am not scared, I will take my stance.”
Swamy on North-South Divide and Language Debate
On the question of growing regional divide between northern and southern states, especially on issues like language, Swamy gave a blunt response:
“If anyone talks about breaking the country, two slaps should be enough.”
He added that there is no real language issue, saying even in Tamil Nadu, Hindi is studied widely and “there is no problem in Karnataka either.”
Delimitation Plans Questioned: "Why the Hurry?"
Another critical topic was the upcoming delimitation exercise which has sparked political debate across the country. Swamy questioned the intentions behind it.
“Modi is doing it. I don’t know why the hurry. What was the need to reduce seats in one state and increase in another?”
While the host pointed out that the government wants delimitation based on population, Swamy contradicted that, saying “It will not be.”
When pressed further, he added a cryptic comment, “Let the government remain after September. Then ask me.”
“Modi is Falling, Not the Government”
One of the most shocking statements came when Swamy claimed:
“Modi is falling. The government will remain. Why should the BJP government fall? We will never want Congress.”
He took a direct jab at Rahul Gandhi, saying his citizenship is British, and that he had submitted proof in court. He went on to accuse Modi of “saving Rahul Gandhi.”
When asked whether this meant Modi was shielding the Congress leader, Swamy did not deny it.
Finally, when asked who would lead the BJP government if Modi steps down, Swamy kept things vague, saying:
“I won’t say anything now. I don’t want to make one person happy and another sad. Let it happen. It will happen.”
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Single higher education regulator bill tabled in LS; Oppn flags ‘centralisation,' JPC likely
New Delhi: A bill to set up a 13-member body to regulate institutions of higher education was introduced in the Lok Sabha on Monday.
Union Education Minister Dharmendra Pradhan introduced the Viksit Bharat Shiksha Adhishthan Bill, which seeks to establish an overarching higher education commission along with three councils for regulation, accreditation, and ensuring academic standards for universities and higher education institutions in India.
Meanwhile, the move drew strong opposition, with members warning that it could weaken institutional autonomy and result in excessive centralisation of higher education in India.
The Viksit Bharat Shiksha Adhishthan Bill, 2025, earlier known as the Higher Education Council of India (HECI) Bill, has been introduced in line with the National Education Policy (NEP) 2020.
The proposed legislation seeks to merge three existing regulatory bodies, the University Grants Commission (UGC), the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE), and the National Council for Teacher Education (NCTE), into a single unified body called the Viksit Bharat Shiksha Adhishthan.
At present, the UGC regulates non-technical higher education institutions, the AICTE oversees technical education, and the NCTE governs teacher education in India.
Under the proposed framework, the new commission will function through three separate councils responsible for regulation, accreditation, and the maintenance of academic standards across universities and higher education institutions in the country.
According to the Bill, the present challenges faced by higher educational institutions due to the multiplicity of regulators having non-harmonised regulatory approval protocols will be done away with.
The higher education commission, which will be headed by a chairperson appointed by the President of India, will cover all central universities and colleges under it, institutes of national importance functioning under the administrative purview of the Ministry of Education, including IITs, NITs, IISc, IISERs, IIMs, and IIITs.
At present, IITs and IIMs are not regulated by the University Grants Commission (UGC).
Government to refer bill to JPC; Oppn slams it
The government has expressed its willingness to refer it to a joint committee after several members of the Lok Sabha expressed strong opposition to the Bill, stating that they were not given time to study its provisions.
Responding to the opposition, Parliamentary Affairs Minister Kiren Rijiju said the government intends to refer the Bill to a Joint Parliamentary Committee (JPC) for detailed examination.
Congress Lok Sabha MP Manish Tewari warned that the Bill could result in “excessive centralisation” of higher education. He argued that the proposed law violates the constitutional division of legislative powers between the Union and the states.
According to him, the Bill goes beyond setting academic standards and intrudes into areas such as administration, affiliation, and the establishment and closure of university campuses. These matters, he said, fall under Entry 25 of the Concurrent List and Entry 32 of the State List, which cover the incorporation and regulation of state universities.
Tewari further stated that the Bill suffers from “excessive delegation of legislative power” to the proposed commission. He pointed out that crucial aspects such as accreditation frameworks, degree-granting powers, penalties, institutional autonomy, and even the supersession of institutions are left to be decided through rules, regulations, and executive directions. He argued that this amounts to a violation of established constitutional principles governing delegated legislation.
Under the Bill, the regulatory council will have the power to impose heavy penalties on higher education institutions for violating provisions of the Act or related rules. Penalties range from ₹10 lakh to ₹75 lakh for repeated violations, while establishing an institution without approval from the commission or the state government could attract a fine of up to ₹2 crore.
Concerns were also raised by members from southern states over the Hindi nomenclature of the Bill. N.K. Premachandran, an MP from the Revolutionary Socialist Party representing Kollam in Kerala, said even the name of the Bill was difficult to pronounce.
He pointed out that under Article 348 of the Constitution, the text of any Bill introduced in Parliament must be in English unless Parliament decides otherwise.
DMK MP T.M. Selvaganapathy also criticised the government for naming laws and schemes only in Hindi. He said the Constitution clearly mandates that the nomenclature of a Bill should be in English so that citizens across the country can understand its intent.
Congress MP S. Jothimani from Tamil Nadu’s Karur constituency described the Bill as another attempt to impose Hindi and termed it “an attack on federalism.”
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